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Voyage aux USA
Bonjour à tous,
Je suis nouveau sur votre forum et j'y trouve pas mal d'infos utiles et interessantes. J'ai toutefois une question un peu embêtante: Est-ce qu'un rider avec sa classe 6A (apprenti) a le droit de rouler aus USA avec un autre rider qui a ses classes réglementaires, c'est-à-dire sa classe 6A depuis au moins 6 ans? :?
Merci à l'avance.
Seb
Je suis nouveau sur votre forum et j'y trouve pas mal d'infos utiles et interessantes. J'ai toutefois une question un peu embêtante: Est-ce qu'un rider avec sa classe 6A (apprenti) a le droit de rouler aus USA avec un autre rider qui a ses classes réglementaires, c'est-à-dire sa classe 6A depuis au moins 6 ans? :?
Merci à l'avance.
Seb
Réponses
Et pour répondre à ta question, non il n'y a aucun problème :P
Un détenteur de permis d'apprenti peut se rendre aux USA sans problème :P je suis allée plusieurs fois avec amis(es) lorsque j'avais mon apprentie et je n'ai jamais rencontrer de problème :wink:
Sauf ce que je ne comprend pas, pourquoi écrit tu «c'est-à-dire sa classe 6A depuis au moins 6 ans? »
En passant tu devrais aller dans ton profil et indiquer dans quelle ville tu vis et ton bike aussi :wink:
Et tu peut aussi aller dans la section «nouveaux membres» te présenter :P
Chaque petit mot gentil.... rend notre monde un peu plus joyeux !!
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Merci pour ta réponse. En fait, je me suis informé autant auprès de la SaaaaQQQQ et du CAA. Les deux n'ont pas de réponses similaires. :shock: :shock: :shock: C'est-à-dire que la SaaaaQQQQ me dit que c'est OK en autant que je voyage avec quelqu'un, tandis qu'au CAA, ils se basent sur le Digest Motor Laws (recueil des lois routières des USA compilé par le AAA) et selon ce recueil, il m'est impossible de rider en tant qu'apprenti, même avec un rider ayant ses classes (donc pas de permis probatoire). :cry: Bref, quant à mes assurances, ils me signalent qu'ils me couvrent tant que c'est légal. Je pense qu'il ne me reste qu'à entrer en contact avec des responsables de la sécurité routière des USA pour en avoir le coeur net...Un peu plate comme réponse quant on planifie un voyage par le Blue Ridge Parkway pour ensuite prendre la Trans-America Trail jusqu'en Oklahoma. Pour ce qui est de ta deuxième question, c'est juste une précision car mon buddy de route à ses classes depuis déjà 6 ans. Bref, merci de tes infos mais s'il y en a d'autres qui sont informés, je suis toujours ouvert. :lol:
par contre je trouve ça bien bizarre car comme je t'ai dit je suis allée plusieurs fois lorsque j'étais apprentie et zéro problème :wink:
Et je te comprend de bien vouloir t'informer avec le voyage que tu entreprends :P
J'ai vu que tu avais bien rempli ton profil :wink: 3 mcx de robots hihihi :wink:
Chaque petit mot gentil.... rend notre monde un peu plus joyeux !!
NE ROULE PAS PLUS VITE QUE TON ANGE GARDIEN PEU VOLER...........
Dès que j'aurai plus de détails, je vous tiendrai au courant... :D Bien difficile de s'y retrouver dans ce merveilleux univers administratif... :twisted:
A+
par contre je trouve ça bien bizarre car comme je t'ai dit je suis allée plusieurs fois lorsque j'étais apprentie et zéro problème :wink:
T'es-tu fait arrêtée en quelque part aux USA?
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en effet un douanier s'intéresse à l'identité de la personne, , casier judiciare etc.... et se fou probablement éperduement que tu ais un permis de conduire en règle...
tandis qu'un policier qui ferait une vérification, y porterais une attention....
Mais les Etats-unis étant ce quels sont, je ne serais pas surpris que d'y voir des règlements variable selon les états....
c'est surement aux Etats-unis qu'il faudrait se renseigner.... peut-êtert l'information serait trouvable sur l'internet... je vais faire une petite recherche ...
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Learner Permits and Junior Licenses From Another State
NYS restricts driving privileges if:
you are under the age of 18 and have an out-of-state driver license, or
you are any age and you have an out-of-state learner permit. You must obey the restrictions of both your home state and the NYS restrictions for learner permits or junior licenses in NYS. Read the DMV brochure, Learner Permits and Junior Licenses.
bon je continu les recherces
L'esprit du Loup Gris Solitaire
voir le lien ici pour obtenir plus de détails : http://w3.lphs.org/academics/dept/drivered/permits.htm
en voici un extrait ... évidement ici on semble vouloir parler de permis d,apprenti automobile...mais j'imagine que pour la moto cela ne peut pas être moins restrictif ( au contraire)
Alabama Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Alaska Will allow a non-resident to operate a vehicle for up to 90 days provided he or she is at least 16 years of age and has a valid license or permit and that the driver with the permit be accompanied and supervised by a license driver who is at least 21 years of age and has been licensed for at least one year.
Arizona Will “NOT” accept any out of state learner’s permit.
Arkansas Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
California If you are a visitor in California, between 16 and 18 years old, you may drive here with your home state license or instruction permit for only 10 days after you arrive in California. After 10 days you must have either a Nonresident Minor’s Certificate or a California license.
Colorado Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Connecticut Connecticut will recognize out-of-state permits provided the restrictions of Connecticut and the issuing state is met. The permit must be in the possession of the applicant when taking on-road instruction, the person providing the on-road training must be twenty years of age or older, have been licensed in the class of the vehicle being operated for the four year period preceding the instruction, and not had their license suspended during that four years. In addition, operation upon limited access highways is prohibited for the first sixty days from date of issuance of the learner’s permit.
Delaware Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
District of Columbia A learner’s permit issued by a jurisdiction other than the District of Columbia is “NOT” valid in the District of Columbia.
Florida Any person with an out-of-state learner’s license must comply with Florida’s laws while driving in Florida. A learner’s license requires that a licensed driver 21 years or older ride in the front passenger seat. In addition, they can only drive during daylight hours during the first three months and until 10 p.m. thereafter.
Georgia Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Hawaii Will “NOT” accept any out of state learner’s permit.
Idaho A learner’s permit from another state is valid in Idaho under the following conditions: The driver is at least 15 years of age, and the driver abides by the restrictions on the learner’s permit usually meaning that a licensed adult is in the seat beside the driver and daylight driving only until age 16.
Illinois Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Indiana A holder of an out of state learner’s permit may legally operate a vehicle in Indiana as long as they follow the guidelines of the state in which that permit was issued. The seat beside the holder must be occupied by a guardian or relative of the holder who holds a valid operator’s, chauffeur’s or public passenger chauffeur’s license.
Iowa Iowa will honor an out-of-state Instruction Permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Kansas Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Kentucky State law in Kentucky allows the holder of a valid instruction permit issued by their home state/jurisdiction to operate a motor vehicle. The driver must be at least 16 years of age and abide by the following restrictions: 1) licensed operator over the age of 21 must be in the front seat beside the driver; 2) no operation between the hours of 12 Midnight and 6:00 A.M. Also, the operator would be required to adhere to any other restrictions placed on the operation of the motor vehicle by the issuing state.
Louisiana An out-of-state learner’s permit is valid in Louisiana for driving purposes. Louisiana requires that anyone with a learner’s permit must be accompanied by a licensed adult driver at least 21.
Maine A person with a valid learner’s permit issued by his/her home state can legally drive in Maine provided that person is at least 16 years of age and adheres to all restrictions applied to the learner’s permit issued by that person’s state or province.
Maryland Maryland permits an individual to use a learner’s instructional permit provided that the permit holder is at least the same age as that required of a resident for the vehicle being driven in this State ( 15 years + 9 months ), and that the individual is accompanied by and under the immediate supervision of an individual who is a least 21 years of age, has been licensed for at least three years to drive vehicles of the class being driven and unless the vehicle is a motorcycle, is seated beside the holder of the learner’s instructional permit.
Massachusetts A person who is sixteen years of age or over and has complied fully with the laws of such state is granted similar privileges of operation in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Massachusetts requires that the holder of a Learner’s Permit may operate a motor vehicle upon any way when accompanied by an operator duly licensed by his state of residence, who is 21 years of age or over, who has had at least one year of driving experience and who is occupying a seat beside the driver. A Permit holder who is under the age of 18 may not operate a motor vehicle between the hours of 12:00 AM (midnight) and 5:00 AM unless accompanied by his parent or legal guardian, who is a licensed operator with at least one year of driving experience and whose license or right to operate is not revoked or suspended.
Michigan A person 16 years of age or older holding a valid learner’s permit may drive in Michigan providing they follow restrictions mandated by their State. The person must, however, be accompanied by another licensed driver who is at least 21 years of age and is seated beside the holder of the learner’s permit.
Minnesota A nonresident who is 15 years of age or older, and who has a valid instruction permit from their home state, may drive in Minnesota, provided that all restrictions on the permit are obeyed.
Mississippi A student with a valid learner’s permit from his home state may drive legally in our state.
Missouri Missouri laws do not allow an individual to operate a motor vehicle on the roadways of this state unless the driver is at least 15 years and 182 days old, has passed the written test, possesses a valid Restricted Temporary Instruction Permit, and operates a vehicle with a parent, grandparent or guardian. A disabled parent, grandparent or guardian may designate a maximum of two persons to accompany the driver in the vehicle for the purpose of giving instruction in driving. The designated person must be at least 21 years of age, must occupy the seat beside the driver and must be a licensed operator for the type of motor vehicle being operated.
Montana Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state as long as they are accompanied by a valid license driver.
Nebraska The State of Nebraska will honor the same driving privileges that are recognized in your state. Provided the license/learner’s permit is issued by competent authority, and is valid in your state, the validity of that license/learner’s permit would be honored in the State of Nebraska.
Nevada A non-resident who has a valid license or permit in his possession, issued by his home state, may drive a motor vehicle in Nevada of the same type or class he may operate in his home state. The driver must be in compliance with any restrictions noted on the license or permit.
New Hampshire Will “NOT” accept any out of state learner’s permits.
New Jersey A student with a valid learner’s permit from another state may legally drive in New Jersey provided the vehicle he is operating is properly titled, registered and insured in the home state. Further, the permit holder will be subject to the laws of his home state.
New Mexico New Mexico will honor learner permits issued by other jurisdictions. For those 15 years old and older, a learner’s permit allows you to drive on New Mexico streets and highways in a vehicle of the class for which the permit is issued. A driver, licensed in a similar class or higher, must occupy the seat beside you in the vehicle. This requirement applies to all vehicles except motorcycles.
New York New York will recognize another state’s learner’s permit subject to the restrictions printed on it and the New York State restrictions for junior driver licenses under 18. A person with a valid out-of-state license for the vehicle being driven may accompany a junior driver. You may not drive in New York state if you are under 16, even if you are licensed in another state. An out of state learner’s permit is “NOT” valid in New York City. In all areas of the state except New York City, Nassau or Suffolk counties, a non-resident licensee under 18 years of age may operate a vehicle from 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. when accompanied by a licensed driver over 18 years of age. He may operate a motor vehicle between the hours of 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. only when accompanied by a licensed parent or guardian.
North Carolina Any nonresident driving in North Carolina who is at least 16 years old and is abiding by the restrictions on their learner’s permit or license as required by the issuing State is authorized to drive in this State.
North Dakota Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state provided the person driving is at least 16 years of age.
Ohio Nonresidents, permitted to drive upon the highways of their own states, may operate any motor vehicle upon any highway in this state without examination or license upon condition that such nonresidents may be required at any time or place to prove lawful possession, or their right to operate such motor vehicle, and to establish proper identity. Nonresidents must adhere to the restrictions outlined for the temporary permit.
Oklahoma Oklahoma law indicates that a person sixteen years of age or older who is properly licensed in his home state or country will be allowed to operate a vehicle in this state as long as he is in compliance with all restrictions of his license.
Oregon Instruction Permits will be honored in Oregon if, the driver is at least 15 years of age, has the permit in their possession, and is accompanied by a license driver at least 21 years of age in the front seat of their vehicle.
Pennsylvania A non-resident who is in possession of a valid learner’s permit from their home state may “NOT” operate a Motor Vehicle while traveling through Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania law recognizes valid driver licenses issued in the person’s home state, but does not authorize the use of a learner’s permit issued in another state.
Rhode Island Will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restriction mandated by the issuing state provided that issuing state accepts their state permit. (Reciprocity)
South Carolina South Carolina does “NOT” recognize an out-of-state beginner’s permit inasmuch as the requirements to obtain a beginner’s permit vary from state to state.
South Dakota The provisions of granting nonresident driver license exemptions to any nonresident are operative only to the same extent that the laws of the state of the nonresident grant exemptions to the residents of this state. South Dakota will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state provided the issuing state accepts their state permit. (Reciprocity).
Tennessee If a person wishes to operate a motor vehicle while in the State of Tennessee they may do so with an out-of-state learner’s permit as long as they comply with any restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Texas A nonresident who is at least sixteen (16) years of age may drive in Texas with a Learner’s Permit from another state provided the person complies with all provisions of our statute. The instruction permit is a driving permit that will enable a beginning driver to drive with someone in the front seat that is 18 years of age or older and holds a valid license.
Utah Non-resident operators are required to be at least 16 years of age and have in their immediate possession valid license certificates (this includes learner permits) issued to them in their home states or countries. These individuals may operate class D or M vehicles. Class D vehicles are 26,000 lbs. or less GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating); class M vehicles are motorcycles.
Vermont Will “NOT” accept any out of state learner’s permit.
Virginia Virginia will accept any valid learner’s permit subject to restrictions mandated by the issuing state as long as a person is at least 15 years of age and that person is accompanied by a licensed driver who is at least 21 years of age or if the licensed driver is a sibling, 18 years of age.
Washington A nonresident who is at least fifteen (15) years of age may drive in Washington as long as he is in possession of a valid instruction permit issued by their home state. In addition, a license driver with at least five (5) years driving experience must be seated beside them.
West Virginia The West Virginia Division of Motor Vehicles will honor any driver’s license or learner’s permit for operation in our state. The learner’s permit or driver’s license must be valid and must adhere to all restrictions mandated by the issuing state.
Wisconsin In order to drive in Wisconsin with a Learner’s Permit issued by other states, the person must be at least 16 years of age and have a valid permit from their home state that is not restricted to operation in home state only. In addition, they are required to operate under the same restrictions as a Wisconsin instruction permit holder. The restrictions are as follows: (a) during daylight hours with a licensed person who has at least two years licensed driving experience occupying the seat next to the operator. (b) during nighttime when accompanied by a licensed person age 25 or more with at least two years licensed driving experience. (c) one additional licensed person is allowed in the back seat if such person is age 25 or more and has two years licensed driving experience.
Wyoming If a person with a learner’s permit from another state operates in Wyoming they are legal so long as they comply with the restrictions imposed by the issuing state.
L'esprit du Loup Gris Solitaire
Merci pour le lien ça peut servir à bien des gens.
:D Fais-toi une belle journée.
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On n'apprivoise pas les chats sauvages...
Tout doucement je veux voyager
En te jasant d'amour et de liberté
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Tout simplement parce que j,en ai jamais vu... est-il indiqué quelquepart sur le permis que tu es apprenti ( que tu n,as pas terminé ton 7 mois avec accompagnateur)
je dit cela car je doute que le policier de la Caroline du Sud ait accès au fichier de de la SAAQ ou de la SQ
Je pose la question...............
Bien que si jamais il y a un accident ..il y a les assurances à considérer.....
L'esprit du Loup Gris Solitaire
Vos recherches ont porté fruit...Je soupconne le préposé du CAA d'avoir pas mal généralisé en me donnant une réponse; en effet, il a du lire que ca dépendait des états dans lesquels tu voyages mais que c'était plus simple pour lui de me dire que c'était interdit partout :wink:
Je continue mes recherches, quoique moins rapides que celles de Goper et j'essaierai de vous tenir au courant.
Merci encore pour les infos,
Seb
Comme tout monde kat :wink:
Qui ne va pas aux USA rider :P les routes sont tellement belles :P
Donc un penser y bien avant de quitter le Québec pour aller rider dans certain endroit aux USA :wink:
Chaque petit mot gentil.... rend notre monde un peu plus joyeux !!
NE ROULE PAS PLUS VITE QUE TON ANGE GARDIEN PEU VOLER...........
EX: Vous jetez un megot de cigarette a terre, arrestation pour Littering...
Et aussi les assurances moto aussi...
Everyone as the right to be stupid...but you're abusing the privilege!
c'est fait il y a un post it dans la section « planification et randonnées » :wink:
Chaque petit mot gentil.... rend notre monde un peu plus joyeux !!
NE ROULE PAS PLUS VITE QUE TON ANGE GARDIEN PEU VOLER...........
Exactement ! Mon assureur aussi me l'a conseillé... Ici les gens peuvent poursuivrent pour 1 million... Aux USA ça va jusqu'à 2 millions !! Donc mieux vaut être bien couvert !!! :D Ça me coute 14$ pour l'année !! pas cher :twisted:
Ah oui aussi.... demande combien de jour tu es couvert.... Moi mon assurance couvre pour 60 jours par année... :D
Et lorsqu'elle rencontra son Roi des tempêtes elle le nomma Roi de France ;)
Et... Ils vécurent heureux et eurent beaucoup de motos! (pis stormrider a volé ma phrase)